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On not always Beliebing what you read.

So, you may or may not have seen this macro doing the rounds.

It is meant to somehow dictate to rock kids, purists, angry teenage boys and gullible internetters that those that play guitars are somehow far superior to those that don’t. It’s an us-against-them mentality that you can find as far reaching as macros comparing Queen to Beyonce and BuzzFeed’s 2011 list lamenting the fact that those poor, helpless guitar-slingers like R.E.M. and Jimi Hendrix never sold as much as Rihanna or Ke$ha like it has any impact on the music itself.

People will get so caught up in this imaginary war – a war, it’s worth mentioning, that the people they are trying to detract from would barely have any idea of – that they will believe anything that comes under their nose. Even recently, a satirical news website called The Daily Currant ran an article about Kanye West, claiming that he believed he was the next Nelson Mandela. Despite being next to headlines such as Woman Kills Three For Last X-Box at Chicago Wal-Mart and NASA Finds Message From God on Mars, the article spread like wildfire. The collective reaction was that of disgust, outrage and slander towards Kanye – and let’s keep in mind that this was over something he didn’t even say. Imagine what happens when he actually speaks.

Just for kicks, I wanted to take the above macro regarding “influential” musicians showing us how ROK N ROL IZ M@D KOOL and that the pop kids r fagz.

Metallica

A 90-year-old wrote to Metallica, wanting to meet her favourite band. The band immediately visited the 90-year-old in her nursing home.

So, the factoid they’ve put here is almost true. The woman in question, a Floridian woman named Margaret Priebe, did indeed get to meet Metallica. However, the woman was 85 at the time and never wrote to the band – her story of using the band’s music during her recovery from cancer ultimately made its way back to the band. It wasn’t an “immediate” response, either – the band met Priebe at a meet-and-greet prior to their show in Tampa; and not at her nursing home.

The twisting of the facts here makes it seem as though Metallica would drop anything if it meant a little old lady wanted to hang out with them. The reality, while still lovely in its own right, is a little more realistic.

Nirvana

Singer Kurt Cobain often stayed up until around three in the morning responding to fan mail. The band also played at various GLBT events to raise awareness of gay rights.

This is a peculiar one. I could not find any instance of such specific information being freely available on the internet. Did the person that created this have to clutch at straws so much that they had to make this up? Honestly, if anyone has a link to an article or anything that confirms the above, I would truly love to see it. I did find some interesting information about Kurt being bullied because kids at school thought he was gay. That’s all I’ve got.

blink-182

A fan wrote a letter to the band just before committing suicide. Touched, the band wrote “Adam’s Song” to honour the him [sic].

This one is completely false. Adam’s Song was written by bassist/vocalist Mark Hoppus detailing the frustrations that came with guitarist Tom DeLonge being away from his then-girlfriend (now wife); as well as an article detailing a teenager’s suicide note to their parents. Despite the somewhat dark subject matter, the song is ultimately a triumph; an anti-suicide ode that shows that life can be worth living in order to get to the better parts. So now you know.

Green Day

In 2010 in Mississippi, a school prom was cancelled after staff found out a lesbian couple would be attending the prom together. Outraged by the homophobia, the band Green Day payed [sic] to hold the prom at a different location for all the students.

Credit where credit is due, this one is almost entirely true. Originally, it was simply the lesbian student herself that was not allowed to come to the prom; with the original prom being cancelled entirely once she persisted that she be allowed to attend. It’s worth mentioning, however, that Green Day were not the sole party responsible for the “second chance” prom – they also had unlikely help from *NSYNC’s Lance Bass and Cat Cora from the US version of The Iron Chef. Again, by cherry-picking and leaving out the facts, this makes Green Day look like the white knights.

Here’s where things get interesting.

One Direction

A very sick patient in Britain had a Make-a-Wish to see a One Direction concert. The group refused after finding out that they would not be payed [sic] money to do so.

This one threw me so much that it actually took me awhile to find out what the fuck the macro was referencing. Typing “one direction make a wish” into Google brought me plenty of evidence that the 1D boys are very charitable and spend a lot of time with the foundation and its patients. Eventually, I found a Yahoo! Answers page dealing specifically with this urban legend. It turns out that the rumour began by means of a fake Facebook screencap, and there was absolutely no further evidence to support it. I found a link to a nice little photo of Niall Horan posing with Niamh Power, an eight-year-old cancer patient; along with absolutely no mention of payment either involved or requested. Isn’t it amazing what you can find out simply by doing more than clicking once?

It’s now time for the cream of the crop. It’s time for Macro Man to take his savage beating of those that dare not to be FKN R3@L MUZISHUNZ  into Bieber territory. Like every brave keyboard-slingin’ soldier from about 2009 onward, Macro Man has taken some vague truths, blanket statements and flat-out lies and run forth with them. Let’s see what we have on offer here, blow-by-blow.

Justin Bieber (DUN, DUN, DUNNNNNNN)

Spit on fans over a balcony.

This is a reference to this. I found this hilarious, because if you currently have a functioning brain then you would be easily aware how this could not possibly be true. Out-of-sequence photos aside, how could they get a distant photo of Bieber spitting off the balcony and then an extreme-close-up of the fans? Most of Justin’s fans may have been born yesterday, but I certainly wasn’t.

Did absolutely nothing to stop a large group of his fanbase cutting themselves.

Fucking hell. Really? You TRULY believed this one? An elaborate and impressive hoax from the 4chan community (still crazy after all these years, those guys), this was bitched from the start. Fake profiles, stock photos… essentially, this was #BaldForBieber 2: Electric Boogaloo.

Was allowed into a skydiving park for free, as long as he advertised for it. He did no advertising and trashed the place.

Well, Macro Man has dug around in the dirt long enough to find something vaguely based in reality. JB did indeed go to an indoor skydiving park and is indeed not allowed back. As for trashing the place, though, this report from E! Online is all I could find:

One security member allegedly made a mess around the sink, then threw his paper towel on the ground while directly looking at an employee.

HOLD UP, WE GOT A BADASS OVER HERE!

So, not only was it not Bieber himself, it was hardly what one would define as a “trashing.”

It’s at this juncture, before I get to the last two things Macro Man goes in on, that I should point out that I am by no means putting on rose-tinted glasses when it comes to Bieber. I admit that I am quite a fan of his music, particularly his later output, and have enjoyed his live shows despite reports of excessive tardiness (oh, grow up). With that said, I am more than willing to speak out against him… should the issue be clear and the facts clearer. Here, they are not. Like many celebrities, the culture behind Bieber-watching is so primitive and obsessive that it needs constant updating and content creation – emphasis there on “creation.” Give an inch, and a mile will be taken.

Like here.

Disrespected Anne Frank in her own house.

Wait, what exactly was disrespectful about staying over an hour at the Anne Frank House, keeping away from the paparazzi and being a far more polite and attentive visitor than he was at the indoor skydiving joint? Oh, right, the guestbook thing. For those of you that missed it:

Truly inspiring to be able to come here. Anne was a great girl. Hopefully she would have been a Belieber.

Naturally, the warriors took to their keyboards like torches and pitchforks to express the utter outrage at the very idea that, were she a young girl in today’s world, she too would have been a fan of his. Only those that would have actually known a little more about Frank and her life picked up some semblance of what Justin was talking about.

This article in The New Yorker from Matt Weinstock sums it up excellently.

When Justin Bieber visited the Anne Frank House last Friday, he must have noticed that the walls were tattooed with film-star photos. Anne swapped them in and out from her collection as she tired of them, and among those in Anne’s last rotation are images of Ginger Rogers, Garbo, and Rudy Vallee. (There’s also a small postcard of chimps drinking tea.) For Bieber, it probably seemed like a paleontological variation on his 2011 “Ellen”-sponsored visit to the poster-covered bedroom of one of his endearing, jackrabbitish fans. For the past few days, the pop singer has been the object of trumped-up media vitriol for his entry in the Anne Frank House guestbook (“Anne was a great girl. Hopefully she would have been a belieber”), and for treating his visit to the annex like a pop-in on another fan, one who had perhaps just ducked out to grab a bit of sun—but, as Anne’s stepsister Eva Schloss observed, “It’s so childish. She probably would have been a fan…. They make a lot of fuss about everything that is connected with Anne Frank.”

Don’t they, Eva? Don’t they.

One more for the road:

Said “rape happens for a reason.”

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong, wrong, Wrongity McWrong with a side-tray of wrongness and a large wrong drink.

To backtrack: This is in reference to Rolling Stone interview originally from 2011. Outrage arose when the-then-sixteen-year-old was quizzed on his sexual, political and religious beliefs. For whatever reason, talk turned to abortion; which ultimately ended in Bieber saying that “I guess I haven’t been in that position, so I wouldn’t be able to judge that.” That should have been the end of it there – besides the obviously uncomfortable position of asking a 16-year-old boy about fucking abortion, it was the phrasing in the article that really sent people into a spin:

“I really don’t believe in abortion,” Bieber says. “It’s like killing a baby?” How about in cases of rape? “Um. Well, I think that’s really sad, but everything happens for a reason. I guess I haven’t been in that position, so I wouldn’t be able to judge that.”

Due to what was claimed to be an “editing error,” the quote was incomplete. Here’s what Justin actually said:

 “Well, I think that’s really sad, but everything happens for a reason. I don’t know how that would be a reason. I guess I haven’t been in that position, so I wouldn’t be able to judge that.”

So, to conclude, Justin Bieber does not think – nor did he say – that rape happens for a reason. Yes, I disagree with his stance on the abortion issue, but I am an adult with an idea of what I am talking about. Justin was sixteen at the time of this interview – if you’d have asked me the same question at sixteen, I probably would have said something similarly stupid.

There are plenty more myths and legends out there in regards to Justin, and I’m sure even more will come as he exits his teenage years in 2014. But, internet, seriously: This. Shit. Has. To. Stop. Rock bands aren’t exactly the saviours of the earth, either. You could easily flip this entire thing. Here, watch this:

Metallica

Sued Napster.

Nirvana

Disrespected Top of the Pops (the nerve!) and trashed their equipment on a live talk show.

blink-182

Claimed to be more together than ever before after reunion… then made shitty comeback album which was recorded completely separately.

Green Day

Acted like grumpy old men at the iHeartRadio festival – fittingly enough, adding in the quote “I’m not fucking Justin Bieber.”

One Direction

Raised millions for charity with their Comic Relief single One Way or Another (Teenage Kicks). Donated 200 thousand pounds to the Stand Up For Cancer foundation. Have also worked with Greenpeace, the Alzheimer’s Association and Trekstock among other organisations.

Justin Bieber

Has had his work and career satirised on Saturday Night Live, Funny or Die and Between Two Ferns. Is a remarkable drummer. Is a spokesperson for PETA and promotes/supports volunteering at animal shelters. Donated $100,000 to the Whitney Elementary School in Las Vegas as well as $100,000 worth of toys to the children. He also performed a free acoustic concert in the school hall. Supports charities working to create schooling for children in third world countries. Probably cares a lot more about his fans than Green Day or blink-182 do these days.

Let that sink in for a minute, Macro Man.

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14 comments on “On not always Beliebing what you read.

  1. Lewis
    24/01/2014

    Looks like we have a bit of a delusional Justin Bieber fan here. It’s okay though, everyone’s used to them. What I’m about to mention are all well known facts that have been all over the news and have never been denied by Justin Bieber, and their are pictures of him doing most of these things online and in newspapers anyway;

    – Spitting on fans.
    – Sleeping with a prostitute.
    – Showing up up to 2 hours late at shows so that many fans don’t even get the chance to see him despite having paid and traveled.
    – Spending thousands at strip clubs (not so much a charity guy eh?)
    – Egging a neighbours house and causing thousands of dollars of damage, enough to get him deported in fact.
    – Blocking a road off, drag racing and drink driving down a neighborhood which in case you didn’t know is how countless people DIE every year.
    – What he said about Anne Frank WAS disrespectful, as it proves he thinks everything revolves around him, even events that happened during the second World War.
    – And if you think he’s such a great role model, then how come 90% of his fans are still immature enough to wish DEATH on people who ever criticize him in ANY way?

    Here’s the fact pal; Justin Bieber is another case of child-fame who’s having a meltdown and setting a terrible example for all of his fans. The other bands that were mentioned here have all done just as many good deeds for charity and so on, but obviously you aren’t going to mention them. You can be as delusional as you want but the fact is that people who are so obsessed with Justin Bieber, they would support him even if he killed someone. Hell, after every fuck up he’s made, not once has he even been decent enough to offer his fans any explanation.

    • davidjamesyoung
      28/01/2014

      Hi Lewis,

      Firstly, wow. Thank you for such a lengthy response here. It’s especially an impressive effort considering how little of the blog you actually read.

      Let’s break it down a bit.

      “Looks like we have a bit of a delusional Justin Bieber fan here.”

      Delusional how exactly? I do say that I’m a fan of his music, but I don’t take it any further than that.

      “What I’m about to mention are all well known facts that have been all over the news and have never been denied by Justin Bieber”

      ‘Facts’ is a tricky, strong word, Lewis. You need some sort of evidence that goes beyond a trashy mag to verify them. Also, since when does not denying something make it a fact? I’ve never denied that I am an interdimensional warlord, that does not make it a fact.

      But, let’s see what you’ve gotten.

      – Spitting on fans.

      Already disproven this one, moving on.

      – Sleeping with a prostitute.

      Wrong. http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/justin-biebers-filmer-a-bodybuilder-not-a-prostitute/

      Also, nice slut-shaming. Tip of the fedora to you.

      – Showing up up to 2 hours late at shows so that many fans don’t even get the chance to see him despite having paid and traveled.

      Okay, yep, he’s been tardy to a few shows. It happens. One point. Well done.

      – Spending thousands at strip clubs (not so much a charity guy eh?)

      Again with the slut-shaming! You’re on fire, my friend. Where do you have your source on his finances, out of interest? Accountant friend?

      – Egging a neighbours house and causing thousands of dollars of damage, enough to get him deported in fact.

      I still refuse to believe that thousands of dollars of damage could be done by egging. On top of that, the latest is the case will likely be dropped due to the lack of evidence connecting Bieber with it.

      – Blocking a road off, drag racing and drink driving down a neighborhood which in case you didn’t know is how countless people DIE every year.

      Yeah, I was TOTALLY unaware. Thanks, man. So, now you actually have something. One thing. You’ve got a teenager acting out and being reckless. It has never happened before and will never happen again.

      – What he said about Anne Frank WAS disrespectful, as it proves he thinks everything revolves around him, even events that happened during the second World War.

      Read it that way if you want, guy. I truly do not give a shit. I gave my side, I don’t need to do that again.

      – And if you think he’s such a great role model, then how come 90% of his fans are still immature enough to wish DEATH on people who ever criticize him in ANY way?

      …what?

      No seriously, what?

      a) I just Ctrl+F’d “role model” and the only thing that came up was your comment.
      b) WHERE are you getting your statistics? Did you do a study of some description? I’d love to see it.

      Here’s the kicker, though, this part:

      “The other bands that were mentioned here have all done just as many good deeds for charity and so on, but obviously you aren’t going to mention them.”

      What in all of fuck are you TALKING about? The entire point of the final exercise in the blog was to show how easy it is to flip what the original macro was doing.

      Seriously, did you just read the headline and then start headbutting the keyboard? Come back when you actually have something worthwhile for me.

      Yours,
      David

      • boop
        27/02/2014

        i don’t understand why you’re defending justin bieber? the amount of rights he does is no where near the amount of wrongs he’s done. we dislike him for a reason. he’s rude, inconsiderate, pushy, spoiled, and extremely disrespectful. just because he donates to charities doesn’t mean that makes him a good person.

      • davidjamesyoung
        27/02/2014

        The fact you said “‘we’ dislike him” as opposed to “‘I’ dislike him” shows just how much a part of the herd you are.

      • Random Person
        19/03/2014

        But has anyone ever publicly and repeatedly accused you of being an inter-dimensional warlord? And what are you on about slut-shaming? There was nothing like that in his post. Strip clubs are where slut-shaming takes place so no Justina shouldn’t be supporting one.

        Also it’s easy to cause a few thousand dollars worth of damage by breaking some windows, etc.

        Two hours is not just a little tardy, he was being fucking selfish about it and had no good excuse. And LOL at you excusing his reckless behavior and endangering lives. Plenty of teenagers don’t place others’ lives at stake in order to “rebel”. (Eg You never heard about Handson getting arrested for DUI etc; not that I like their shitty music but +1 for being on SGC2C.) What he wrote at Anne Frank’s house just proves he’s a spoiled brat with no perspective on life. He’s a no talent hack that had other people write his songs (I think it was like half a dozen for “baby” alone). He’s 100% fake. He’s the male version of Miley Cyrus and a TERRIBLE role model.

        Oh, and he pissed in a mop bucket in a night club.

        As for pyschotic fans, just a few examples:
        http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57572610-71/the-price-of-being-retweeted-by-bieber-death-wishes/
        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1392134/Selena-Gomez-receives-death-threats-Justin-Bieber-fans-new-wave-outrage-Hawaii-frolicking-pictures.html

        Also I find this hilarious: http://sourcefed.com/beliebers-can-no-longer-deny-bieber-is-a-douche/

        And ofc he’ll probably get off easy — mind you it’s all not just Beiber but ALL celebs get off fucking easy and and normal person would be doing hard time.

      • Nick
        22/05/2014

        Saying “That’s ridiculous and any fan knows it’s not true” is no disproving anything. And drunk driving and street racing are not “teenagers acting reckless,” It’s putting other people’s lives in danger. Your opinions are not fact, now please shut the hell up. And saying he slept with a prostitute is not slut-shaming, since it’s a fucking crime. I guess the whole government is slut shaming. You’re an idiot and your article is ridiculous and stupid.

      • davidjamesyoung
        22/05/2014

        “Saying “That’s ridiculous and any fan knows it’s not true” is no [sic] disproving anything.”

        It disproves itself. It did the work for me.

        “Your opinions are not fact”

        No, but my facts are.

        “And saying he slept with a prostitute is not slut-shaming, since it’s a fucking crime.”

        Yeah, except it’s ‘fucking’ not. In many parts of the world. Might want to read up on that one.

        “You’re an idiot and your article is ridiculous and stupid.”

        Thanks for reading! xo

  2. Random Person
    19/03/2014

    Oh, and how on Earth can you deny that Beiber basically said “rape happens for a reason”, even when adding in that extra line.

    How about in cases of rape?
    “Well, I think that’s really sad, but everything happens for a reason. I don’t know how that would be a reason. I guess I haven’t been in that position, so I wouldn’t be able to judge that.”

    That (rape) is really sad, but it happens for a reason. The next sentence is a little unclear… does he mean he doesn’t know how rape would be a reason for abortion? That’s what it seems, I dunno what else he could mean. “I wouldn’t be able to judge” is a nice sentiment and something he should apply to the rest of the abortion argument (women with health issues, parents unable to support a baby, condom breaking, etc). Just saying.

    • davidjamesyoung
      19/03/2014

      Stopped reading at “Justina” tbh.

      • justinabaumann
        19/03/2014

        DJY:
        My name stops ALL in their tracks.

        Random Person:
        “Strip clubs are where slut-shaming takes place so no Justina shouldn’t be supporting one”
        Typo? Or just plain ol’ undermining you’re their own comment? Any comment about anti-slut shaming has been undermined by the act of calling Bieber a feminine name, enforcing that to be associated with female/the feminine is considered an insult. Well done. Let’s hope this is a typo though.

  3. Jessie
    04/04/2014

    Are you 5? Did you just graduate kindergarden? You got your sources from unreliable websites including wikipedia. You know you can’t rely on the internet because there are people who don’t know what they are talking about including you. I’m sure you are not aware of celebrities paying other people about convincing the web that they didn’t do something even though they are the ones to blame; which is something that Justin Bieber probably did.

    First of all, there is no possible way to back up Justin Bieber; he is just a horrible person. He cannot take back the things he has done with just “sorry” or “oops”. For example, Justin has shown up late to multiple concerts. This shows how careless he is towards his fans who have payed a lot of money to see him in concert but he obviously doesn’t care.

    The lead singer of Nirvana (Kurt Cobain) still stayed up till 3am writing back to letters from his fans. You cannot just simply say that he was bullied because he was gay, that does not change anything. I see that you did that to the other bands too. You put something completely unrelated, but that does not change anything. Green Day still payed the money to held a prom at a different location, Metallica still visit a lady in a nursing home, and Kurt Cobain still stayed up all night writing back to fans.

    I am sure you are only saying this because you obviously hate the sound of good music and you hate music and bands from the past because of how deep and meaningful there music is.

  4. Rob
    22/05/2014

    So David…

    Oct. 26, 2011: Bieber is pulled over while leading a three-car motorcade, which includes Sean Kingston, after they cut off a highway patrol officer.

    Oct 20, 2013: Strip Club visit, yeah great role model. http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/justin-biebers-saucy-strip-club-2472702

    Nov. 03, 2013 : Visits a well known brother. http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/justin-bieber-brothel-scandal-teenager-2672676 The excuse that he thought it was “Private Club” are laughable

    Nov. 07, 2013 : Spraying a hotel wall with Graffiti. http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/justin-bieber-charged-police-over-2685542

    And a nice long list of behaviour not befitting a role model for young impressionable teens.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/justin-bieber-top-10-bratty-2326653

    Some of these actions he doesn’t attempt to deny and even apologises for a couple.
    Accusing media of editing photos, doesn’t mean they were edited. I’m sure more than one person gathering at his hotels had a camera, it is possible to have had pictures collected from more than one source.

    FYI…

    Metallica. How does suing Napster make Metallica bad exactly?

    They like to do a bit of charity work too

    https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/metallica

    Also, http://www.nme.com/news/metallica/77358 Front man performing at a charity event.

    Nirvana. The story about Top Of The Pops it a bit more complex than that. The BBC wouldn’t allow Nirvana to perform their song live and told them they had to mime. So if anything I would say that it was Top Of The Pops disrespecting Nirvana’s talent as musicians.

    Blink 182. You have stated that it was completely false, then quoted a statement saying that the song was inspired by a teenager’s suicide letter. So, sure the letter wasn’t written to Blink 182, but the fact the letter is partly what inspired the song, I would say that makes it a song written in the boys honour.

    And some nice charity work carried out by Blink 182…

    https://www.looktothestars.org/news/4814-blink-182-give-their-soles-to-charity
    https://www.looktothestars.org/news/3698-blink-182-designs-shirt-for-charity
    http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/blink_182_charity.html

    http://www.nme.com/news/blink-182/67731 Seems they are back to their old selves now.

    Green Day. Mike is known to suffer from panic attacks, so could quite easily be the reason for this outburst. Quoting that Green Day said “I’m not fucking Justin Beiber”… So did they say it in unison or did you just not put much effort into this fact?

    Ooh look and they like to do their bit for charity too…

    https://www.looktothestars.org/celebrity/green-day

    Yes, Justin Bieber does some charity work, but so do all these bands that you are slating. And the things you are slating them for are far out weighed by the things Justin Bieber has been reported to have done, with factual evidence to back a lot of them up. Photos and Video footage, whereas none of your “Facts” about these bands come with any solid evidence. Quotes can be exaggerated and taken out of context or just completely made up.

    Gooday!

    • davidjamesyoung
      22/05/2014

      For what it’s worth, this is the final comment I am either going to read or approve on this article. The fact that you have gone so far out of your way to completely misread what I was talking about is beyond astounding. You’ve tried to turn this into a dicksizing contest; as well as a conspiracy theory rant worthy of a tin-foil hat. I’m just done with trying to explain myself to angry old men with black belts in keyboard.

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